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https://www.thegatewaypundit.com/2021/05/breaking-az-audit-director-ken-bennett-dominion-refuses-comply-subpoena-turn-password-maricopa-county-machines/

'The fact that the County does not have system administrators who have administrative access to the Dominion voting machines is a big concern. By allowing Dominion to have the administration access only, the County has basically turned over the system to the Dominion voting machine system people. There is no IT control here because that’s been ceded to Dominion. ...

In his interview with OAN Ken Bennett said Dominion is refusing to comply with the State Senate’s subpoena and is hiding the second password for their machines.'

Date: 2021-05-08 04:24 (UTC)
marycatelli: (Default)
From: [personal profile] marycatelli
hmm. . . .

Date: 2021-05-08 22:05 (UTC)
From: [personal profile] ndrosen
Follow-up: the Wikipedia article on Gateway Pundit describes it as known for publishing falsehoods, hoaxes, and conspiracy theories, and follows that description with multiple examples.

I do not believe that Wikipedia is always perfectly reliable, nor that everything published by Gateway Pundit need necessarily be false, but I do recommend treating this story, and any other story from Gateway Pundit with extreme skepticism.

Date: 2021-05-08 15:39 (UTC)
From: [personal profile] ndrosen
Hmm, indeed. It might be that Dominion is engaged in skullduggery, or it might mean that Dominion has legitimate reason not to give sysadmin power to people it has no reason to trust, and who might use their access to create fake voting records. It might also be that the whole story is false, or at best distorted, with significant information left out. When I saw “One America News”, my BS alarm went off; I don’t know about Gateway Pundit, but they seem Trumpist as well.

For the record, I am not a Democrat. In the first federal election in which I was old enough to vote, I helped re-elect Ronald Reagan, but I despised candidate Trump from the first, and voted for the Libertarian presidential candidates in 2016 and 2020.

Date: 2021-05-09 15:09 (UTC)
marycatelli: (Default)
From: [personal profile] marycatelli
That it can be used for fraud is exactly the reason why they have to cough it up.

Date: 2021-05-10 04:54 (UTC)
From: [personal profile] ndrosen
Imprimis, given that the source is notorious for fake news, I don’t know whether the situation is remotely as described. Secundus, even assuming that the report is essentially accurate, I am not sure what legitimate purpose providing the password now would accomplish. If Dominion did not commit fraud, the password would probably not enable the authorities to establish its innocence with certainty, and given that these are Trumpublicans, I would not trust them to proclaim Dominion’s innocence if they found no evidence of fraud. If Dominion did commit fraud, they probably did not leave a trail, or else by now they could have used their sysadmin powers to erase the trail. Furthermore, if the investigators announced that they had found evidence of the ballot count being altered, I would not trust them, given that belief in Trump’s Big Lie that the election was stolen is a Republican shibboleth.

And please remember, I did not always despise the GOP.

Date: 2021-05-11 00:25 (UTC)
marycatelli: (Default)
From: [personal profile] marycatelli
Your argument rests on a confused view of the relative authority of the court and the company.

Date: 2021-05-12 05:10 (UTC)
From: [personal profile] ndrosen
I beg to differ. I am not a lawyer, and did not get into the legal questions of how far the court’s authority extends, what the company might do to quash a subpoena, whether a subpoena can be simply ignored, etc. My argument does it rest on a confused view, or any view, of such questions. Instead, it addresses different questions.

Date: 2021-05-13 03:31 (UTC)
From: [personal profile] ndrosen
Whether the investigators could be trusted, whether the sysadmin password could be used to discover fraud if fraud was actually committed, and whether the sysadmin password could be used to create a fake trail of supposed fraud. Oh, and whether an article in Gateway Pundit could be trusted in the slightest.

Date: 2021-05-13 13:01 (UTC)
marycatelli: (Default)
From: [personal profile] marycatelli
Those are not relevant.

Date: 2021-05-14 06:44 (UTC)
From: [personal profile] ndrosen
Why not? And relevant to what?

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